What's Up With The Wimbledon Seedings?
Posted on June 17, 2010
Filed Under Womens Tennis News
http://www.atpworldtour.com/News/Tennis/2010/06/Other/Wimbledon-Seeds-Announced.aspx
The formula is:
• Take ESP points at 14 June 2010
• Add 100% points earned for all grass court tournaments in the past 12 months
• Add 75% points earned for best grass court tournament in the 12 months before that.
BUT when it comes to the WOMENS draw, it’s just normal rankings . . .
How is that fair? . . .
Nadal is #1 in the World, so he deserves to be #1 at Wimbledon. You didn’t see Nadal get the #1 at Roland Garros, so why is he #2 at Wimbledon. I am not even a huge fan of Nadal (or Federer) but this is just stupid.
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Hardcourt is the most neutral surface where any style can win. The Australian and US Open should always seed according to the rankings. But in my opinion neither Wimbledon nor the French Open should ever go strictly off the rankings when determining its seeds. The reason being that the grass and clay surfaces offer advantages to many "specialists" and disadvantages to to players whose game doesn’t suit that surface. Federer is a 6 time Wimbledon champion, he is also the defending champion and has defeated Nadal twice before at Wimbledon. He should be the top seed and the favorite to win the tournament. Even though Nadal just overtook him in the rankings, the suggestion that he is a better grasscourt player is silly. Yes Nadal has won Wimbledon once before and made the finals two other times, but he is ultimately the second favorite on that surface in my opinion (meaning he should be seeded second). The only argument with the men’s seedings should be who should be seeded higher, Nadal or Roddick. Roddick should be the third seed because his results on grass and Wimbledon have been superior to that of the players ranked above him except Federer and Nadal. He is a three time finalist and last year’s finalist as well and won the Queens Club tournament 4 times. Lleyton Hewitt should also be seeded much higher than his current ranking since he is a previous Wimbledon champion, also a 4 time Queens club champion and just took out Roger Federer at Halle on grass.
As far as the women go, Serena Williams in addition to being the number one ranked player is also the defending Wimbledon champion. Yes Venus is probably a better grasscourt player overall, but Serena did defeat Venus at this very same tournament last year and ultimately as long as they are on opposite halves of the draw, it doesn’t really matter which one is seeded first or second.
I agree. Winning the French Open should have put Nadal at #1. I smell a (British) rat!
yeah this is such a stupid way of seeding the players for the tournament.
it should just be based on the official rankings like the rest of the tournaments.
i think they fuck it up because if you read the report it says that the seeds wuld be based upon who has a better grass court record. federer and roddick are ok but my issue is with murray and djokovic who is seeded higher then roddick who made it to three finals. and in 2008 djokovic was eliminated in the first round so how does he have a better record especially since roddick has been playing longer than he has
The seeds are the top 32 players on the ATP Entry System Position (ESP), BUT then rearranged on a surface-based system. A seeding committee is not required for the Gentlemen’s Singles since the seeding order is determined using an objective and transparent system to reflect more accurately an individual player’s grass court achievements: The formula is:
* Take ESP points at *June 2009
* Add 100% points earned for all grass court tournament in the past 12 months
* Add 75% points earned for best grass court tournament in the 12 months before that.
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just realised u got da formula there XD. wel IMO i think this is unfair cause rafa is no.1 so therefore should b the first seed.
Federer has won Wimbledon six of the last seven years. Nadal didn’t play last year unfortunately due to injury, so he only gets 75% of the points from Wimbledon title he won two years ago. They can’t do anything about Rafa’s zero points from last year.
And there is no practical difference between the #1 and #2 seed. I wonder why they don’t do anything with the women’s seeding? That they do it for the men and not the women seems odd to me.
haha i get thumbed down when I say Federer is overrated here yet this happens. I mean these kinda things is what makes the big-nosed freak overrated. Wimbledon is pretty darn stupid with their rules. The only good thing they have is the history but everything else is bull. I hope Federer gets a very bad draw now
Yeah, there’s a lot of controversy over this seeding formula, however our good old Aussie Lleyton Hewitt has benefited significantly from this method and is now seeded 15th (26th originally).
Well Wimbledon is pretty notorious for mixing the seed #’s. I remember one time that Marcos Baghdatis was 20th in the world and seeded #10.
I dont have a real problem with the seed mixings, but i do have a problem mixing the world no.1/2. Rafael Nadal deserves the no.1 seed because he didnt even get an opporunity to defend his title last year.
Wimbledon has always had their own methods for establishing the seedings. It’s designed to seed players according to their prowess on grass courts. Other grand slams used to follow a similar practice years ago but these days the seedings usually mirror the world rankings.
To be honest, I wasn’t aware that the womens seedings were worked out differently to the mens. I was under the impression they were the same (they used to be).
Frankly, I like the way Wimbledon does it. Just because Nadal is the number one ranked player in the world, I don’t necessarily think he should be the top seed for Wimbledon. In my opinion, he’s not the best grass court player going around. However, I think Nadal should have been the top seed at the French Open because he is most definitely the best clay court player in the world.
But that’s just the way the seedings go these days and Wimbledon is now the odd one out – probably because they like to preserve as many of their traditions as possible.
It’s gone to seed. What can you say?
this is not stupid
there is no rule that Wimbledon should follow the rankings to determine seedings
Federer deserves to be #1 at Wimbledon.